Monday, January 16, 2006

"Gorebal" Warming Meltdown!

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Former V.P. Al "Put me in Coach" Gore, again sought the limelight today by publicly melting down and blasting the Bush administration with an undisciplined, lengthy, "sky is falling" rant in honor of MLK day. In his speech, unfortunately attended and somewhat endorsed, by former congressman Bob Barr, Gore attempted to incite the citizenry to revolution and to fear all forms of communication due to, in his view, an overzealous, power-mad administration which has thrown innocent people into prison, and denied them rights after secretly evesdropping on their innocent private phone calls and emails. Also, according to Gore, the Bush administration is personally responsible for the unlawful capture, torture and death of hundreds of innocent people throughout the world in their unjustified grab for power couched in the fabric of fighting terrorism.

Gore stated today, "The President claims that he can imprison American citizens indefinitely for the rest of their lives without an arrest warrant, without notifying them about what charges have been filed against them, and without informing their families that they have been imprisoned.

At the same time, the Executive Branch has claimed a previously unrecognized authority to mistreat prisoners in its custody in ways that plainly constitute torture in a pattern that has now been documented in U.S. facilities located in several countries around the world.

Over 100 of these captives have reportedly died while being tortured by Executive Branch interrogators and many more have been broken and humiliated. In the notorious Abu Ghraib prison, investigators who documented the pattern of torture estimated that more than 90 percent of the victims were innocent of any charges."

Unbelievable. "Executive branch interrogators", "authority to mistreat prisoners", "imprison American citizens indefinitely"? What a load of crap!

To listen to Gore's speech, first you'd have to be jacked up on caffeine or something to be able to endure it without passing out, but he would have you believing that Bush is the white-Anglo version of Kim Jong il; a tyrant, who seeks only to yield unchecked power in an insatiable thirst to control the world! Gore put it this way,

"This effort to rework America's carefully balanced constitutional design into a lopsided structure dominated by an all powerful Executive Branch with a subservient Congress and judiciary is-ironically-accompanied by an effort by the same administration to rework America's foreign policy from one that is based primarily on U.S. moral authority into one that is based on a misguided and self-defeating effort to establish dominance in the world. The common denominator seems to be based on an instinct to intimidate and control".

Do you really think he believes that the Clinton administration, of which he was the number three man (behind Hillary), had any moral authority? Guess again Al.

I personally thank God every day that this crazy man, or his subsequent Bush challenger, John Kerry, were never elected. Our country would be on a much different and more perilous track. Al would have mandated that schools issue sun block to counteract the terrorism of the sun's rays and global warming, while Kerry would have raised taxes to pay for more abortion clinics and fund needle programs for the degenerates in an effort to satisfy his guilty conscience for unearned wealth. Both would have probably fought terrorism by mandating sensitivity training so that we could understand the unfortunate reasons for terrorist's anger. Both men are pathetic and should be an embarrassment to their losercrat party. But rather, they are celebrated as espousing the heart and soul of the party. This is why the Demoncrats are done as to their prospects of regaining power. Us flyover simpletons aint that simple, we can see through the BS. To use popular folksy jargon, "That dog won't hunt"!

I am glad that the president is willing to go out on a limb to keep us safe. The feds can listen to any of my calls anytime. Since most of them seem to be freekin' solicitors, I'm sure they would get bored very soon and hang up. However, if I was communicating with Al-keida types in Syria, I might want to hide that from the feds. In fact I would love for agents to be delayed in their search for me so that I can switch cell phones or email addresses. Al conveniently forgot that every modern President starting with Carter has used the same provision when necessary. In fact, Al and his buddy Bill went even further by allowing agents to search and seize property without FISA. But when you're a demoncrat, like Al Gore, you can't let facts get in the way of good propaganda.

I assume Al is revving up for another try at the presidency he was so unfairly denied in 2000. He's like a little spoiled, bratty kid who keeps whining, "My dad said I could be president, now let me, or else!" Good luck with that Al.

To his credit, Al, realizing that he was just blowing smoke admitted that what Bush did was the sensible thing to do given the circumstances. Sure it was a bit gray, but needed. Gore stated,

"Don't misunderstand me: the threat of additional terror strikes is all too real and their concerted efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction does create a real imperative to exercise the powers of the Executive Branch with swiftness and agility. Moreover, there is in fact an inherent power that is conferred by the Constitution to the President to take unilateral action to protect the nation from a sudden and immediate threat, but it is simply not possible to precisely define in legalistic terms exactly when that power is appropriate and when it is not."

OK Al, then why the spitting and fussing? Oh yeah, you can't get your boring mug on camera anymore, and you're still hoping to fulfill daddy's dream of being president; thus, the public tantrum. I guess it will score points with the hardened lefties who can't see straight from their blind rage over being yesterday’s news.

Maybe someone can convince old al to go do some of his crack scientific research on global warming; maybe down in the Antarctic taking deep core samples or something. Whatever it is, just go away, please.

32 comments:

Nam Vet - Alabama Theatre said...

I did catch former VP Gore's speech yesterday. Great speech from the man who a little over five years ago. Had more votes cast for him in the presidential election. Than the man who was eventually appointed to the job. I know I'll sound like a repug here, but it was all because of those damn trial lawyers and activist judges on the US Supreme Court. The rushpublicans promise they're going to take care of that little problem. Too bad for the country they didn't fix it six years ago. It was a thoroughly enjoyable experience though, listening to an articulate speaker once again. After five years of going through the trials and tribulations of trying to figure out what George W Bushism is attempting to say.

"Unbelievable. "Executive branch interrogators", "authority to mistreat prisoners", "imprison American citizens indefinitely"? What a load of crap!" Actually scud, it's a load of fact!

" Executive branch interrogators" In a paper prepared last year under the direction of the Defense Department's chief counsel, and first disclosed by the Wall Street Journal, the president of the United States was declared empowered to disregard U.S. and international law and order the torture of foreign prisoners. Moreover, interrogators following the president's orders were declared immune from punishment. Torture itself was narrowly redefined, so that techniques that inflict pain and mental suffering could be deemed legal.

"Authority to mistreat prisoners" Three key Republican senators yesterday condemned President Bush's assertion that his powers as commander in chief give him the authority to bypass a new law restricting the use of torture when interrogating detainees. Those three senators would be, John W. Warner Jr., Republican chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Senator John McCain and Senator Lindsey O. Graham, South Carolina. ''We believe the president understands Congress's intent in passing, by very large majorities, legislation governing the treatment of detainees," the senators said. ''The Congress declined when asked by administration officials to include a presidential waiver of the restrictions included in our legislation. Our committee intends through strict oversight to monitor the administration's implementation of the new law."

"imprision American citizens indefinitely" Under the "unitary executive" theory, the Bush Administration has claimed the right to seize American citizens in the United States and to imprison them indefinitely without charge. Before you get too comfortable with abolishing the "rule of law." You might want to see what powers the proponents of the "Unitary Executive" say are granted to Presidents under this theory. Only a person dense enough, to assume that all future presidents will hold a view identical to his. Could be supportive of this idea.

It's never ceases to amaze me how the wingnuts, who insist on black-and-white difference between good and evil in everything else. Habitually find a way to excuse, without question, anything and everything the Bush Administration does.

The rest of your stuff appears to be, run of the mill, talking points borrowed from the likes of Sean, Rush or Pat Robertson. You know, the anti-environment, anti-science, "forced childbirth" kind of stuff you righties revel in. I'm not sure Rush would share your views on the drug abuse, needle exchange program thing. But, your comment provides an interesting insight into your take on opposing attempts to slow the spread of HIV-aids. You do know, you don't have to be a degenerate to contract HIV.

I like to leave you with a quote from one of your fellow Minnesotan.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." Sinclair lewis.

Anonymous said...

I finally figured out why Scud works in pictures. Because he obviously can't read, or at least he doesn't understand the meanings of the words.

bob said...

Right Vet-boy, and it never ceases to amaze me how leftist nutbags attack anything and everything the Bush Administration does.

Gore has the personality and intellect of a salt block, which I guess makes him a perfect spokesman for the Dumpocrats.

Hey anonymous, good one, I bet you thought long and hard on that one.

scud said...

I understand enough words to know that the demoncrat party of today poses a threat to our way of life. They cannot be allowed to hold the responsibility of power again. They will get us killed. A brief history lesson for our nameless friend. Since John F. Kennedy, our 2 subsequent demoncrat presidents have been aberrations in an ongoing trend to the right. Carter (whom I voted for - mistake) came to office in response to the Nixon problem and the country club republican image of Ford - actually, Chevy Chase's SNL depiction of Ford was the clincher to getting Carter elected. Carter then gave us 20% interest rates, an energy crisis, and the Iran hostage crisis which in turn gave us the talking bobble head, Ted Koepel. Carter's failure at resolving the Iran situation served to embolden radical Islam and terrorism.

Next the Clinton fiasco. Clinton won primarily because of Ross Perot dividing the conservative vote. Clinton won with a pathetically low percentage of votes. Take Perot out of the equation and we never would have heard of Monica. Clinton systematically used his power to weaken the US in unprecedented ways. He traded missile technology to China for campaign donations, helped North Korea go nuclear, allowed terrorism to flourish without serious responses to multiple attacks, put up bureaucratic roadblocks to law enforcement agencies ability to share information on suspected foreign nationals, allowing an Al-keida cell to carryout their 9-11 attack. Oops, looks like Jamie Gorelick, the clintonista justice department official responsible for implementing that policy just happened to be on the 9-11 commission and that little bit of information was missed in the report. And somehow many of the records of that policy and pre-knowledge of the cell some how ended up in Sandy Berger's shorts and mysteriously disappeared. Oh well.

This is why the demoncrats will not regain prominence as a serious party. They are done. The morons like Al Gore, Hitlery, Feinstein, Kerry, Dean and the MSM just don't know it yet.

Jeff said...

In Scudland, Carter may be responsible for the Iranian Revolution and therefore the 1979 energy crisis but few rational people cite him as the cause of an upheaval that scud's buddies in the CIA failed to predict even as students gathered in Shahyad Square.

Circumstances were different in '79 then they were in '73 and OPEC tried to pick up the slack caused by falling Iranian oil production, but supply was still down 4-6%. Despite scudian claims to the contrary, the effective Federal funds rate never cracked 20% during the Carter years. In June 1981 it reached its historic high at 19.10%. Although critical of the Fed's policies in response to stagflation, scud never proposes an alternative solution. When Volker set the 1981 rates, inflation was at an all-time high (13.5%).

Throughout the rest of this rant, scud commits a logical fallacy that we like to call ad clintonem.

Nam Vet - Alabama Theatre said...

"I understand enough words to know that the demoncrat party of today poses a threat to our way of life. They cannot be allowed to hold the responsibility of power again. They will get us killed." scud.

Wow, that's strong stuff. I knew you held some extreme views. But, until reading your last post. I wasn't aware you thought the liberal half of the United States was out to get you. So, in an effort to help alleviate this profound state of fear in which you live. I would like to offer you some reassurance. We demoncrats, as you are fond of calling us, don't really desire the physical destruction of either you or your conservative cohorts. Political demise, yes, physical, no. So, hopefully it was just political rhetoric on your part and you don't truly believe what you wrote. They apply the P word to people who genuinely have those kind of feelings. Anyway, if past history is an example, you don't have to fear for your life. Aren't you more of a "we're defeating the enemy there so we won't have to fight them here" kinda of guy? The actual danger is to the people who are doing the fighting. Just continue to stay away from over "there" and you and yours will be ok. Lip Service Soldiers seldom take any casualities.

I checked out the links you are using to support your historical revisions. Two were implausible right-wing sites, Faux News and The Downside Legacy. The other was a report of Albright's visit to China, with no relevance to your "go nuclear" contention. But you were right on with the Sandy Berger link. Berger broke the law and he deserved to be punished for removing and destroying those documents. Like Duke Cunningham did for taking bribes.

Next the Bush fiasco. Remove Ralph Nader and Bush would never have been appointed president and we never would have heard of The Apprentice Scooter Libby's porn novel.

Acts of terror that must have slipped your mind.
Pan Am 103 - Bush 41
US Embassy Beruit - Reagan
Marine Barracks Beruit - Reagan

Today is an important date to me, one I'm sure to remember. The day on which scud sounded the death kneel of the Democratic party. He's wrong of course. As were the short-sighted people who proclaimed the death of the Republican party after the Goldwater debacle in 1964. But the present day republicans, due to their own incompetence, are greasing the skids for the return of the democrats to majority party status once again.

Bob-boy, are you a Walton? If I supported George Bushism, intelligence and personality are the last things I would bring up. You leave yourself wide open.

scud said...

Sorry Nam Vet, you missunderestimated me. I don't fear the sheeple who follow the wolves. I fear the wolves. The democratic leadership of today is leading the once great party, which I used to vote for, in a path that is detrimental to the country. The dems have sold out to far left special interest groups and have essentially taken on the platform and attitude of socialists. If you can be objective for a minute, you have to admit that since Kennedy, the party has drifted left, way left. I have JFK's inaugural address, as well as others, on my iPod and as I listen to them, I'm amazed to realize how much he had in common with the Republican Party and ideology of today. He certainly wouldn't have had much in common with his drunken brother or the rest of the democratic leadership today. The party has gone too far, and as a result, they are dangerous to our safety. Yes, terrorist acts happened during the watch of Reagan and Bush (41). They should have been stronger in their response as well. Basically, the situation is critical. There is an enemy that wants to kill us. That's not a contestable fact - they've proven that. What is in question is how to deal with the threat. The modern Democratic Party leadership has proven that they don’t have a clue. Sitting back and hand wringing won't preserve our freedom. This is why this present group of far leftists cannot be allowed to control the country.

Jeff said...

Scud, those are Jesusland Socialists. Good lord, Dick Nixon was a better socialist then these guys. Nixon reneged the Bretton Woods agreement and devalued U.S. currency. He authorized price, production and allocation
controls during the 1973 energy crisis. He indexed Social Security against inflation (never envisioned as part of SSA) and provided the source of the current projected shortfall. Nixon was reponsible for the Environmental Protection Agency and the Occupational Safety and Hygiene Administration. Conversely the Jesuslanders want to repeal sodomy laws. Hint: They've already been repealed by the conservative court.

I'm not sure what Scud thinks Kennedy shares with the Republicans. For starters, he was a good Keynesian. During the 1960 campaign, he vowed to use government to mitigate the business cycle. In 1961, he cut taxes to expand the budget deficit and boost consumption - pure, unadultrated Keynesian economics. The CEA was comprised of Heller, Gordon and Tobin; his most trusted economic advisors were Samuelson and Galbraith. As far
as sharing values, the current Republican base is located in the old Confederacy. That former Democratic stronghold switched allegiances after Johnson hammered Kennedy's Civil Rights Act through Congress in 1964.

As far as enemies go, here's what Republicans fail to grasp. You destroy the ones who try to kill you rather than create additional ones. When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt didn't retaliate against
Peru. When Germany declared war on the United States a few days later, Roosevelt didn't turn the war machine on Iran, he fought the Axis countries. Duh.

scud said...

Duh is right! You amaze me with your focus on minutia, while missing the big picture completely. Kennedy cut taxes to kick-start the economy. It is an economic model that always works. You give people their own money to use as they see fit and the economy grows. When the government confiscates it, the growth slows. Duh. Kennedy was also hawkish on defense, a concept far from embraced by modern dem leadership.

Unfortunately you and the rest of the Kool-Aide drinking lefties don't seem to have an understanding of what the current enemy is about. I am not claiming to be an Al-Keida expert by any means, but we should be able to agree that radical Islam is an enemy without clear borders and uniforms, unlike WWII. And I believe that we are attending to the modern Axis as well as possible. Do you really think that bringing liberation, freedom and opportunity to an oppressed people creates enemies? Only those who want to continue the oppression, but they hate us anyway. Try your best to crawl out from under the moral relativist rock you're under and see that there is a difference between good and bad, right and wrong. And by the way, we are the good guys! Again, Duh.

scud said...

PS, a little fact you probably were never taught in your college poly sci class, more Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats.

Jeff said...

The Kennedy-Johnson tax cuts were part of a broader strategy to mitigate the business cycle; they were coupled with spending cuts. If your only tool is cutting taxes, at some point you're left with no second act. 1965 saw a 4.9% jump in GDP but a 1.5% decline in Federal receipts. Johnson raised taxes later in the decade. He had to. Debt is more damaging to growth than taxes.

Supply-siders don't have a second act. After the Reagan tax cuts, we saw five straight years of reduced federal receipts. Revenues recovered in 1985 as a result of an expanding tax base. Meanwhile during this period the government incurred 1-1/2 TRILLION dollars in debt. You expressed concern for confiscated wealth, so did Alan Greenspan. "Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth," he said. For every dollar the government borrows and spends, the value of one dollar is removed from the public through inflation and interest if taxes are used to pay for the spending.

Long term deficit spending of the kind we've seen from Reagan and Bush is tantamount to slavery. It's been sixteen years since Reagan left office and ALL his debt is still on the books. Since then, Mister Bush has contributed trillions more. Our share of the national debt stands at $27,446.30 a piece. I don't know about you, but I don't have that lying around.

Jeff said...

P.S. Of course I'm aware of that. Take a look at electoral maps from 1952 through 2004. The 1964 Civil Rights Act changed the political landscape. All those bigoted Southern democrats who opposed the act are in your camp now.

Anonymous said...

I love how scud hypes Republicans "ability" to "protect us from evil" on a day the osama bin laden releases another tape. Remember him scud? He's the guy who told Saddam Hussein to fly planes into our bldgs.

scud said...

You are a wealth of information. I'll bet you're a real drag at parties playing trivial pursuit. You might need to be told: those who claim to have an answer to everything are the most annoying, and generally friendship challenged. Be careful.

Again, you miss the big picture. The dems of today, are not capable of securing our country from those who would destroy it. They are not serious about dealing with the threats that exist, and those that will arise in the future.

I agree with you that Pork spending by Congress is a huge problem. Bush has not done enough to veto bloated spending bills - it's extremely disappointing. But securing our country is the primary directive of the president, and he's doing that. You may think otherwise, but most of us are glad He's fulfilling his oath.

Note: The boom of the early and mid 90's was not a result of Clinton's tax increases, but as a result of the long-term benefits of the Reagan tax cuts, and technological innovation. The Clinton recession of the late 90's was the result of Clinton's tax hikes. It took another cut by Bush to revive the economy, especially after 9-11. And lets just go ahead and call that Clinton's fault too (and of course, don't forget our buddy Al Gore).

Jeff said...

Don't worry about me, scud. I've got plenty of friends. Some of them have even infested this blog from time to time....

> but most of us are glad He's fulfilling his oath.

I know you love the President, scud, but please stop confusing him with the Christian savior.

It's clear no amount of information is going to change your mind: Bush makes you feel safer. The only thing that gets you through those scary moments when you're forced to leave your suburban Bloomington, Minnesota fortress is the knowledge that his Imperial Highness, George W. Bush, is upon the throne. Curiously, Bush is polling close to Stalin in the areas directly affected by the attacks.

Just a guess: I suspect you've never studied economics. Would you care to show - with math - how the Reagan tax cuts created the stock market bubble of the 1990s?

Greenspan may have been our greatest central banker, but I'm critical with how he handled the bubble in the 1990s. The man knew the market was overvalued but he did little to cool it off. Of course, some would argue that he couldn't have done much given the glut of capital we've seen since the widespread use of 401Ks for retirement plans. During this time, Klinton was reducing government spending and balancing federal budgets. It was widely regarded fiscal policy with which only a true red believer could find fault.

Mr. Ithurtswhenipee said...

I have to agree with scud on one point. "the dems are not capable of securing our country from those who would destroy it..." The dems. have sucked at trying to stop Bush's agenda.

"Bush has not done enough to veto bloated spending bills." Bush hasn't vetoed one bill that has come across his desk. You would think that if he so opposed "pork", he would at least use one of his trusty signing statements to voice some kind of displeasure.

The boom of the 1990's had more to do with Federal Reserve policy of the time than Reagan's tax cut from a decade earlier.

Nam Vet - Alabama Theatre said...
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Nam Vet - Alabama Theatre said...

scud, your rhetoric is no more accurate than is your namesake, the Scud missle. You just launch something up in the air and hope it does some damage to the opposition.

You're are right about one thing though. "The dems of today, are not capable of securing our country from those who would destroy it." Not right now anyway, since those destroying our country presently control the Presidency and both houses of Congress. But, after the mid-term elections, that danger will ease somewhat.

You can't really be so divorced from reality. That you would bring up the topic of "special interests" at this time. To claim, with a straight face, that the opposition party has sold out to special interest groups. When, as a devotee to the party of "Jack Abramoff", that should be the last place you would want to go right now. Unless you enjoy self-flagellation.

I'll admit there are a few positions, held by the Democratic party, that are to the left of where I would prefer. But, overall, when compared to the number of extreme positions held by todays Republican party. The dems views are much closer to those of the mainstream America.

But, for the sake of argument, let's say you will be objective about the Republican party. You are aware of course, that your party has veered quite noticably to the right since the days of Dwight David Eisenhower and even Richard Nixon. Who, by the way, was the first president I ever voted for. Since those long lost days of moderation. You guys have moved over, occupied and become quite comfortable in the niche left open, when southern voters bolted the Democratic party. Because of its support for the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Let's face it, many of today's republicans still retain or have adopted as their own, the views of the old Dixiecrat party and it's founder Strom Thurmond

Jeff said...

The only meltdown I see is in the labor market. Last Thursday, Bush claimed his tax cuts added 4.6 million new jobs since 2003 but since then we've added EIGHT MILLION new people. In other news, Ford Motor Company announced it would create 15,000 new jobs by eliminating 30,000 old ones....

Jeff said...

I say flip:
"The K Street project is purely to make sure we have qualified applicants for positions that are in town," Mr. Santorum said. "From my perspective, it's a good government thing."
[Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 11-15-05]

You say flop:
"I had absolutely nothing to do -- never met, never talked, never coordinated, never did anything -- with Grover Norquist and the -- quote -- K Street Project," Mr. Santorum said.
[Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 1-26-06]

Jeff said...

December's numbers are in. Scud is out of step with the rest of the country.

This and the previous two comments are brought to you by the East Coast fly-over brigade. We're the people who fly over you people. Happy landing.

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